MEETING MINUTES: -
May 12th
Members attending
the meeting included: Richard
Foerster, Alan Shoemaker, Don Evinger, Dave Reisz, Kandy Phan,
Ken Howells, Mac Shaver, Klaus Herzog, Jim Lucha, Hung Nguyen, and
Forrest Sherman. New members, Ossil Macavinta, Dana Rodden Dick
Mathews, Mark DiNicolai and Karl Pomroy were unable to make the meeting.
Hopefully they will be able attend our February meeting. Also missing at
this meeting were Tad Peters, Isaac Saldana, and Craig Carignan.
Jim was attending his first LUGIE meeting this time.
He is a Programmer/Analyst with the San Bernardino Medical Group
{E-Mail: lucha@pe.net} who says..."Linux:
Because rebooting is for adding new hardware"
Alan Shoemaker, Forrest Sherman and Don Evinger told members about a recent
project to set up Mandrake 8.0 using a Highpoint ATA-100 RAID {see: http://www.hothardware.com/hh_files/Motherboards/SE6BX133RAID.htm
A similar problem may also exist with the promise controller.
It seems that the partition numbering established during the install was
changed when the system restarted at the end of the procedure.
As a result Lilo had to be changed to allow it to boot normally.
Forrest mentioned his Promise IDE RAID {mirror stripe} lost a drive.
He couldn’t determine which of the two was damaged, but both were
rebuilt off-line. There was
some speculation that if the master dirve fails it may take the slave also.
Alan reported that in installing Mandrake-8 on his all SCSI system he
encountered a similar problem to one that exists in Red Hat 7.1.
The distribution CD image won’t allow it to boot using a SCSI
controller. A new image is
available to resolve the problem. He
also mentioned that Mandrake includes legacy libraries, so that you can install
and run packages from Mandrake 7.1 on a Mandrake-8 system.
Alan still hasn’t resolved the SEG FAULT he got when he tried to install
Slackware. Several members
suggested several ideas to help determine if he possibly had a memory problem.
One suggestion was a memory-testing program available at: http://freshmeat.net/projects/memtest86/
…, which may help, identify a bad chip.
Mac Shaver told members that PacBell is taking a look at replacing their
SPARC-20 systems and are
considering Sun Blades/Solaris-8 or IBM Intelli-Stations running Win-2k.
In the area of interesting developments, Mac also members take a look at:
http://www.jabber.com/index.shtml
which is a Instant Messaging Solutions for Enterprises and Service
Providers Jabber is a revolutionary new real-time communications platform based
upon open protocols and XML. Whether you're looking to deploy a branded Instant
Messaging service or you need a flexible and extensible development tool for
real-time XML messaging, look no further. Jabber.com provides scalable,
commercial-grade Jabber software, solutions, and professional services based
upon technologies of the Jabber Open Source movement.
A major point is that it can work with instant messaging clients except
AOL, to communicate with people on other services.
Mac also reported that Microsoft is working on HailStorm, which will use IM
Client Banner Advertising to generate revenue for IM service providers who
participate in the consortium. HailStorm
is Microsoft's code name for a set of user-oriented Web services that the
company plans to begin delivering by the end of June.
A report by IDG News service at: http://www.itworld.com/AppDev/1473/pcwnws-010320-hailstorm/
indicated that there “were
commitments by Gates and other company executives to support access to the
HailStorm services from any device. They demonstrated those services running on
a Palm PDA, a Pocket PC, and a RIM Blackberry handheld, as well as on a Sun
Microsystems workstation running Sun's Solaris Unix and on a PC running Red Hat
Linux.”
In the week before our meeting there was a thread on the list about “dual
boot” problems using Win/ME. Ken Howell’s reported his solution, rather than
dual boot is his “Zip Slack” disk. If
the disk is first formatted for 100mb on his 250mb Zip at work the same Zip
Slack Linux will work on either type drive.
If this sounds interesting, talk to Ken he may be willing to share a copy
with you, or you can download your own at: http://www.byte.com/feature/BYT19990824S0023
It is a little-known distribution of Linux (Zipslack) that can install
itself onto a DOS partition and co-exist gracefully with DOS. It contains full
C, C++, and Perl development environments in addition to a full set of
documentation, but doesn't have any unneeded fluff.
Based on Slackware Linux v2.2, it will not give you a high-performance
Linux implementation. The DOS filesystem is slow. It is not as rugged as a Linux
filesystem. But it does work.
The ensuing discussion of other alternatives like
“Tom’s Root Boot” {see: http://www.toms.net/rb/
} brought up a recommendation for “Rip Rescue” see: http://www.icewalk.com/softlib/app/app_01235.html
which is a Small Linux system for the purpose of system booting or
repairing, a boot/rescue system. You can put this system on a 1.44mb formatted
floppy or cdrom disk, it will probably also boot from a LS-120 drive with a
1.44mb floppy. It's more or less designed for non-networked stand-alone home pc
hard drive boot / rescue / backup! It has large filesystem support, you can use
the programs dd, mke2fs, mkdosfs, mkreiserfs, split, mount, tar, gzip, and bzip2
with files bigger than 2GB. It includes the partition resizing program parted
and the mc file manager!
Forrest also reported on a Dyanmic DNS service called
Hammernode that is provided to help host websites on home/business computers
that are stuck with dynamic IP addresses. If this sounds like something
you need check out: http://hn.org/faq.orientation.html
There was a lot more, but as is sometimes true
"you had to be there". The meeting was a great success and
we are all looking forward to next month's meeting on June 9th.